Saturday 6 April 2013

Saturdays results

Riverside 2 beat Burnie 0

Ulverstone 3 beat Prospect 2

Devonport 6 beat Launceston City 2

Rangers 3 beat Launceston United 0

V League

Devonport 7 ( Mann 3, McGuin 2, Holden, Eaves) beat Launceston City 1

Rangers 1 lost to  South Hobart 2

9 comments:

  1. pretty quiet on here, maybe a talking point to start is on swearing. Is it a red if it is directed at someone or not. I think its a joke that someone swears out of frustration and get suspended from the game. It happens to every team and something needs to happen. Is it illegal to swear in public these days? Geez what year are we in now

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    1. When someone says "F.. You Ref" it is clearly directed at the referee and is not "frustration". Lots of players say things in frustration and the game goes on, but when it is directed at someone (referee or not) then the laws of the game make it clear what happens next.

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    2. Most ref's will accept, with a warning, "quiet" frustrated swearing aimed purely at the swearer, but loud swearing or swearing aimed at someone is offensive to the majority of the public, I don't know anyone who would accept being given a mouthful by a player or spectator. Clubs work very hard to attract spectators and supporters to games, they are put off by this behavior. Most players sent off for swearing usually end up apologizing to their victim after a match and so they should, I have yet to hear of a coach of that player who hasn't also apologized for their players actions, they all realize that it is degrading to their club for this behavior.

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  2. agreed, I understand why they want to cut it out a bit, I think a yellow is a better way to go, the ruling is too inconsistent anyway and makes it hard for players to know limitations.. Also I was a spectator at the ulvie v knights game on the weekend and thought I noticed Adam Conkie come off the bench when he should be suspended from the statewide cup brawl.. correct?

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  3. I agree with the point about swearing out of frustration as long as its not too loud. I don't personally think its a good look for the game when players are freely swearing with young kids etc around the field. Having said that if someone swears at me out of frustration in a game I dont care. The suspension for swearing at referees is out of proportion. Its much the same as clocking someone which is a bit unfair.

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  4. This week will tell a few more tales as to where everyone is at
    Sharks should beat United 4-0 closer than the cup match.
    Port and Olympic both good winners last week but Ports victory league away so Olympic 2-1
    City and Rangers all together with victory league teams rangers should be too good 2-1
    Burnie host Knights who should have the talent to win 3-1 Knights

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  5. Law 12 shows players should be sent off for using offensive or insulting or abusive language or gestures. The amount of weeks you miss may depend on what you said and who you said it to. That is the only part of the argument that is complex, the first part is simple. Most referees are actually more lenient than they should be, which is where your inconsistency comes from.
    Rod Fulton

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  6. Speak to any southern referee & they will tell you the law was changed about 2-3 years ago. The way they now interpret the law is, if you swear & it is directed at them or another player, you can be sent off. If you swear out of frustration at a pass you buggered up, no card. Pretty much all people will ever want is consistency between referees.

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    1. It is not "the way they now interpret the law...", all FFT referees follow the same principle - if it is directed at someone you will likely be sent off. If it is just in "frustration", it may be ignored, the referee may have a word, or it may also be dealt with by a card if it is clearly audible to others. Each case is different because there is a big difference between muttering after a bad pass or shot, and swearing directly at someone. The 'problem' is that when a player is sent off for swearing directly at someone (inc the referee), they almost always claim that they "didn't say it" or it is always "just in frustration". Under FFT rules, a player will get a weeks suspension if they are sent off for "using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures". If it is directed at a match official, add 2 more weeks. In the example above at anon 05.22, where a player swears and refers directly to the referee (so there is no doubt) the red card has to be the only way to deal with it.

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